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602| Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:24:00 GMT| md6040| Comments (27)
I've been working out for about a month and have noticed some gains. I've only used shakes as a primary source of protein. My problem is I don't really like eating. I'm never hungry, I don't like making food and I don't really have the money to buy prepared food. Obviously I'll have to change some things about myself, but I need to know what works best before I adjust my life for it.

Currently I try to eat a lot of fruits and vegies with one shake with every meal. Sometimes I eat a lot of meat, but usually I can't force enough down to get 30 grams. I'm not sure of my current calorie intake, but I'm sure it should be a lot higher. I eat 3-5 meals per day and consume about 150grams of protein per day. I drink a lot water and try to rest 8 hours every night.

Any simple tips to make me step in the right direction?

Thanks in advance!

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start getting used to eating whole food sources of protein, try stuff here and there, some chicken, steak, eggs, fish, fat free cheese, milk, cottage cheese, and see what you like or might like, read different recipes. Best way to grow and see gains is through consumption of whole food protein sources, and while whey isnt necessarily bad, it should be used to supplement your whole food sources or make up if youre lacking your daily protein requirements.

zach53 | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:25:00 GMT |

1) eggs+oats+flax+splenda in a blender - no eating required

1) tuna+brown rice+olive oil+steamed brocoli+hot sauce in a blender - no eating required

3) chicken breast + sweet potato + roasted pepper sauce in a food processor - no eating required

4) cottage cheese & peanut butter - yeah that's eating, but not a whole lot of chewing

All of these things are cheap meals, too.

Supplement the above with 2 protein shakes and some fruit, and there's a whole days worth of food!

saintpatty | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:26:00 GMT |

its ok to use whey as ur only source i do right and iam growing

i do eat other meat here and there but my protein mostly come from whey in my meals

gangsta1087 | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:27:00 GMT |

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its ok to use whey as ur only source i do right and iam growing

i do eat other meat here and there but my protein mostly come from whey in my meals
now start eating whole food sources, and tell me how much more you grow.

zach53 | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:28:00 GMT |

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now start eating whole food sources, and tell me how much more you grow.
x2

saintpatty | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:29:00 GMT |

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x2
whey protein has the highest protein value then all the whole foods

gangsta1087 | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:30:00 GMT |

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Originally Posted by SaintPattyView Post
1) eggs+oats+flax+splenda in a blender - no eating required

1) tuna+brown rice+olive oil+steamed brocoli+hot sauce in a blender - no eating required

3) chicken breast + sweet potato + roasted pepper sauce in a food processor - no eating required

4) cottage cheese & peanut butter - yeah that's eating, but not a whole lot of chewing

All of these things are cheap meals, too.

Supplement the above with 2 protein shakes and some fruit, and there's a whole days worth of food!
Now THATs the kind of info I need. Thanks.

md6040 | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:31:00 GMT |

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whey protein has the highest protein value then all the whole foods
I'm pretty sure the best source of protein from eggs, but what do I know?

md6040 | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:32:00 GMT |

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Now THATs the kind of info I need. Thanks.
Glad to help. Sometimes its easier to drink your food. And you are correct, egg is generally accepted as the most bioavailable protein there is. However, the important thing is that you're getting a diversity of protein sources, not just the concenrated juice of cheese biproduct! (thats whey)

saintpatty | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:33:00 GMT |

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Glad to help. Sometimes its easier to drink your food. And you are correct, egg is generally accepted as the most bioavailable protein there is. However, the important thing is that you're getting a diversity of protein sources, not just the concenrated juice of cheese biproduct! (thats whey)
Would it be beneficial l to mix up it up between soy and whey shakes? I also have a shake that has whey and egg protein. I just really don't like eating super solid foods and will go out of my way to fuel my body by other means.

Thanks again.

md6040 | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:34:00 GMT |

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whey protein has the highest protein value then all the whole foods

Good to see the supp company adverts are getting through to you

andrew69 | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:35:00 GMT |

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Originally Posted by SaintPattyView Post
1) eggs+oats+flax+splenda in a blender - no eating required

1) tuna+brown rice+olive oil+steamed brocoli+hot sauce in a blender - no eating required

3) chicken breast + sweet potato + roasted pepper sauce in a food processor - no eating required

4) cottage cheese & peanut butter - yeah that's eating, but not a whole lot of chewing

All of these things are cheap meals, too.

Supplement the above with 2 protein shakes and some fruit, and there's a whole days worth of food!
I think Im gunna hurl...

andrew69 | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:36:00 GMT |

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whey protein has the highest protein value then all the whole foods
wrong.

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I'm pretty sure the best source of protein from eggs, but what do I know?
right.

rugger7 | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:37:00 GMT |

Here is a good article talking about whole food vs. Protein supps.
http://www.successinsidersecrets.com/?p=114

skullcrusherchris | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:38:00 GMT |

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Good to see the supp company adverts are getting through to you
Supplement ads have the highest BS value.

justlost | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:39:00 GMT |

ridiculous

there is absolutely nothing wrong with shakes. i've gone 75 % of meals living off meal replacements with no problems growing. as long as they are blends you are fine. this reminds me of the idea that 'steak makes you big!' it all breaks down into aminos in the gut anyway. straight whey all the time is not ideal, however.

icery | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:40:00 GMT |

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1) eggs+oats+flax+splenda in a blender - no eating required
hrrmmm I'd add some fruit to that personally, for taste reasons... atleast thats what I do... it is my daily morning shake... egg white + oats + fruit + splenda depending on how ripe the fruit is. I don't put fat in it as I want that stuff quick in my system in the morning before workouts. This is the one of the only ways I can eat eggs and oats, as I am not a fan of either by themselves, the other way is an omelet covered in cheese (not so great) and oatmeal cookies.. :P I generally don't wanna eat in the morning much so I drink the shake, also a lot less on my gut prior to workout. I'm not a big fan of flax, I think its a waste of $ that should be thrown at fish oil.

grapemaster | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:41:00 GMT |

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hrrmmm I'd add some fruit to that personally, for taste reasons... atleast thats what I do... it is my daily morning shake... egg white + oats + fruit + splenda depending on how ripe the fruit is. I don't put fat in it as I want that stuff quick in my system in the morning before workouts. This is the one of the only ways I can eat eggs and oats, as I am not a fan of either by themselves, the other way is an omelet covered in cheese (not so great) and oatmeal cookies.. :P I generally don't wanna eat in the morning much so I drink the shake, also a lot less on my gut prior to workout. I'm not a big fan of flax, I think its a waste of $ that should be thrown at fish oil.
I'm with you on fish oil. Okay, new and improved morning formula!

eggwhites(yolks if ya want em)+oats+handful or berries or a banana+1T fish oil+splenda= perfect, no chewing required morning nutrition.

Take your multi and drink a liter of water, and you're set!

saintpatty | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:42:00 GMT |

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Would it be beneficial l to mix up it up between soy and whey shakes? I also have a shake that has whey and egg protein. I just really don't like eating super solid foods and will go out of my way to fuel my body by other means.

Thanks again.
Like someone else said, if you just simply arne't going to get whole foods in (even with my dandy whole food slop ideas), try to use a protein blend (like Syntha-6), and you'll be whey better off (get it?)

saintpatty | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:43:00 GMT |

how can a human not enjoy eating? thats like saying you dont like sex. you need help bad and fast!

j1987 | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:44:00 GMT |

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wrong.

right.
Proof? Whey is still more bioavailable than egg protein. Not meaning its better, but the amino acid profile is superior.
And whey can easily be the only protein source. Mix it up with fats to slow digestion and youre golden.
In fact sometimes the only food i consume is this shake (6x daily) : Whey powder + oats + peanut butter + psyllium husk seed. Sometimes i add cottage cheese to this shake as well. Works.

vadimbeliaev | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:45:00 GMT |

Personally, there's no way I could handle the consumption of just one source over the other. I use shakes regularly, but only for their intended purpose which is as a supplement. Trying to get 450-500 grams of protein in a day is a major hassle and without the use of both, there is no way I would come close...and sometimes still don't.

Is it possible to live off protein shakes as your sole source of protein, I would say definitely, but it is not recommended. JMHO...

bonecrshr | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:46:00 GMT |

Why is it not recommended? All i see in this thread is people throwing around opinions without ever explaining why they think so. Its perfectly fine if you know how to balance your other nutrient needs for the day.

vadimbeliaev | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:47:00 GMT |

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Why is it not recommended? All i see in this thread is people throwing around opinions without ever explaining why they think so. Its perfectly fine if you know how to balance your other nutrient needs for the day.
My post was an opinion and I thought I explained very clearly why I, personally, wouldn't try to consume protein from a single source. Other than what I have previously mentioned, for me its simply a matter of a desire for macronutient variety provided by the pairing of whole foods and nutritional supplementation. I don't know of any scientific principles to refute your advocacy for consuming only protein shakes as opposed to supplementing them to whole foods protein sources as that was never my intention.

If the consumption of only protein shakes is working for you, by all means knock yourself out. If the OP can decipher any useful info provided in these opinions (including yours) then that works for me, too.

bonecrshr | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:48:00 GMT |

Well you did say, its not recommended but failed to provide a reason why. This is why i posted what i did.
The reason i sometimes recommend shakes over solid food is simply because sometimes our GI tracts cannot handle 2 lbs+ of meat daily. Using something as easily digestible as a whey shake sometimes might provide you with unexpected gains, as your digestive system as a whole starts to work much more efficiently.

vadimbeliaev | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:49:00 GMT |

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Well you did say, its not recommended but failed to provide a reason why. This is why i posted what i did.
Vadim, this (below) was my reasoning behind my recommendation that I find it best to consume a combination of both whole foods rich in protein and protein supplements.

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...Trying to get 450-500 grams of protein in a day is a major hassle and without the use of both, there is no way I would come close...and sometimes still don't.
I, personally, would never recommend anything to anyone that I would or could not do myself (as I assume the same holds true for you). I would have no honest position to do so. Again, it was not intended to refute your position as much as it was to share with the OP my opinion on the subject and his current situation...that's all.

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Originally Posted by Vadim Beliaev
The reason i sometimes recommend shakes over solid food is simply because sometimes our GI tracts cannot handle 2 lbs+ of meat daily. Using something as easily digestible as a whey shake sometimes might provide you with unexpected gains, as your digestive system as a whole starts to work much more efficiently.
I do not totally disagree with that, but in my opinion that does not constitute a good enough reason not to combine whole food protein sources with protein supplements. Ultimately it appears evident that your ideology is working for you and that's what is important.

Ray

bonecrshr | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:50:00 GMT |

I try to limit shakes to 3 times a day (P/C or P/F meals) and not back to back. I usually do whole food, shake, whole food... and repeat. Reason? For ME... if I do back to back shakes.. I get the runs.

givenr | Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:51:00 GMT |

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